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that led them to david petraeus. at some point, they become worried was the cia director compromised. they realize it's an affair, but to your point, the director of the cia has access to the name of every person in the intelligence community. every operative around the world. more access than the secretary and to the president. i mean, it would seem of all people in the world if you're worried about the security of the cia director, that's something you would share. if not just with congress, but with the president, right? >> that's certainly makes sense from common sense point of view. at the same time, we have to look at the history of the fbi, when the fbi was probing into the private affairs of public officials and under the hoover administration, used them to blackmail extort pressure people to do the bidding of the fbi. we don't want to return to those days, so i think we have to be very careful and clearly, the fbi was trying to find the right line here and not use what may have been an affair that had nothin
that led them to david petraeus. at some point, they become worried was the cia director compromised. they realize it's an affair, but to your point, the director of the cia has access to the name of every person in the intelligence community. every operative around the world. more access than the secretary and to the president. i mean, it would seem of all people in the world if you're worried about the security of the cia director, that's something you would share. if not just with congress,...
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. >> this david petraeus scandal -- >> i certainly wouldn't call it welcome. >> we have to do something about heterosexuals in the military. >> i think the term is propinquity. >> before this leads back to kevin bacon. >> justin bieber in there. you put selena gomez -- >> 30,000 pages of e-mails. >> take his mind off the woolz of the day. >> there's a fine line between sa deduction and spamming. >> what does this woman smell like? >> i don't know if you want to get diplomatic -- >> is it a petty mixture of ambrosia and crack? >> do you believe the story line he would not have told president obama about something that is so important? >> that's one of the dumbest questions i've ever heard. >> what did they know? when did they know it? >> senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. >> let's get right to our panel. msnbc political analyst jonathan alter, columnist for bloomberg view, nia-malika, and goldie taylor, managing editor of the goldie taylor project. jonathan, i can begin with you, do we need a full-scale watergate style investi
. >> this david petraeus scandal -- >> i certainly wouldn't call it welcome. >> we have to do something about heterosexuals in the military. >> i think the term is propinquity. >> before this leads back to kevin bacon. >> justin bieber in there. you put selena gomez -- >> 30,000 pages of e-mails. >> take his mind off the woolz of the day. >> there's a fine line between sa deduction and spamming. >> what does this woman smell like?...
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is it fshe had something from david petraeus. i was struck by the president calling it a personal matter and talking about hills time as a general. we talked about david petraeu pelast night and his incredible service over so many deployments and how hard that is. the fact is, he was c.i.a. director. he wasn't a general in the army any more. he was c.i.a. director. and most people i've talked to think that is a very, very different situation. >> julianna let's go back to obama fair moment. you've been watching him going on close to five years-- over four years. he's pretty confident, isn't he? he feels good, as he should, i suppose, this is a more comfort, assertive obama than we saw six months ago. >> i thought it was noteworthy at the press conference when he talked about the kind of mandate he thought he had. he said i will be a better second-term president than first-term president-- he said know well about the research of second-term presidents who tend to overreach. but he still did say i have this mandate. the american peo
is it fshe had something from david petraeus. i was struck by the president calling it a personal matter and talking about hills time as a general. we talked about david petraeu pelast night and his incredible service over so many deployments and how hard that is. the fact is, he was c.i.a. director. he wasn't a general in the army any more. he was c.i.a. director. and most people i've talked to think that is a very, very different situation. >> julianna let's go back to obama fair...
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i called david petraeus. >> and are you going to investigate why the fbi didn't notify you before? >> yes, absolutely. this is something that could have had an effect on national security. i think we should have been told. there is a way to do it. >> and several top republicans are demanding petraeus come back to capitol hill this week to testify before congress over the attack on the american consulate in benghazi. >> i don't see how in the world you can find out what happened in benghazi before, during and after the attack if general petraeus doesn't testify. so from my point of view, it's absolutely essential that he give testimony before the congress so we can figure out benghazi. >> let me bring in the editor in chief for "reason" magazine matt welch and jackie kucinich. we know the fbi was looking at all of this for a while. officials tell nbc news the investigation started this summer after another woman, jill kell kelley, described as a friend of david petraeus, told another person at the fbi that she's getting threatening e-mail. should the fbi have alerted someone in cong
i called david petraeus. >> and are you going to investigate why the fbi didn't notify you before? >> yes, absolutely. this is something that could have had an effect on national security. i think we should have been told. there is a way to do it. >> and several top republicans are demanding petraeus come back to capitol hill this week to testify before congress over the attack on the american consulate in benghazi. >> i don't see how in the world you can find out what...
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is the source of all of her information david petraeus? given her extraordinary access to the former director of the cia, it would have been a reasonable assumption. but, again, her access to him was not in any way in an official capacity. though she did tell me she was working with the general on writing a second book. a senior intelligence official says the claims are categorically not true, nobody was ever held at the annex before, during or after the attacks. but with something like this, ted, the damage is really done just by the nature of her putting information out there. >> what more do we know about his relationship with her, with paula broadwell? >> well, as we heard a little bit earlier, the general has been reaching out to friends over the weekend, and even today, telling them that the relationship began a couple of months after he started as director of the cia, but it lasted up until four months ago. we also know that the two were seen together about a month ago. what we don't know is if there was any conversation about the p
is the source of all of her information david petraeus? given her extraordinary access to the former director of the cia, it would have been a reasonable assumption. but, again, her access to him was not in any way in an official capacity. though she did tell me she was working with the general on writing a second book. a senior intelligence official says the claims are categorically not true, nobody was ever held at the annex before, during or after the attacks. but with something like this,...
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. >>> lawmakers have pointed questions about the investigation into david petraeus' extramarital affair and want to know if national security was breached. peter king talked with candy crowley. >> they're saying the fbi didn't realize until election day that general petraeus was involved. it just doesn't add up. >> petraeus resigned from his post friday and admitted he had an affair. sources say the affair was with his biographer paula broadwell. >>> immigration reform appears to be in the works. charles schumer and lindsey graham say their plan involves a tough love path to citizenship. that plan went nowhere when they teamed up. there may be fresh motivation after election losses. >>> the death toll from sandy climbed to at least 113 with two more deaths reported in new york. two weeks after it crashed through residents in new york and new jersey are still cle clearing debris from their homes. the path rail system into manhattan will resume 5:00 a.m. >>> serious divergent rebel groups are formally united after the pressure from u.s. and arab nations. opposition leaders met in qatar an
. >>> lawmakers have pointed questions about the investigation into david petraeus' extramarital affair and want to know if national security was breached. peter king talked with candy crowley. >> they're saying the fbi didn't realize until election day that general petraeus was involved. it just doesn't add up. >> petraeus resigned from his post friday and admitted he had an affair. sources say the affair was with his biographer paula broadwell. >>> immigration...
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with breaking news tonight, you are looking at capitol hill where david petraeus is to testify in front of the senate committee. meanwhile, we are learning more about the agent who was the first to be identified to have started this. he said that the infamous shirtless picture he sent to her was a joke and several years ago. and now we will listen to what the president has to say about the argument over susan rice. >> if senator graham and senator mccain want to go after somebody, they should go after me, and i'm happy to have that discussion, but for them to gof a u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and simply making a prez sentation information she had receive and to besmirch her reputation is outrageo outrageous. >> if the president thinks that we are pick on people, he really does not have any idea of how serious this issue is. >> the benghazi battle turning into a hot issue. i will talk to one of the senators taking the president to task, kelly ayotte. but we will begin with the latest on the petraeus investigation. we are joined by suzanne, welcome back. >> thank y
with breaking news tonight, you are looking at capitol hill where david petraeus is to testify in front of the senate committee. meanwhile, we are learning more about the agent who was the first to be identified to have started this. he said that the infamous shirtless picture he sent to her was a joke and several years ago. and now we will listen to what the president has to say about the argument over susan rice. >> if senator graham and senator mccain want to go after somebody, they...
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and david boyle has spoken to general petraeus, and worked with him and followed his career up close as he researched a book after iraq, and i asked him what it was like to interview petraeus. >> i wrote a book about him and interviewed him -- a book about iraq and interviewed him in 2010 and when i asked him for an interview, i got an e-mail response from him directly like that. i got other e-mails from him subsequent to that, subsequent to our interview, where he was enthusiastic and supportive and cheering me on for getting good reviews, and it was like i had a mentor. you know, he is very effective personally. but then when i start reading about the fact that he may have been obsessively e-mailing his mistress and so forth, he struck me as a man who may have had a digital addiction or a digital, almost like a digital mania, which all of us can maybe relate to these days, because he's a guy who was constantly e-mailing, texting and perhaps he was googling himself too much and should have had a real life. he lived in a bubble where he was lionized by the military and the press, and
and david boyle has spoken to general petraeus, and worked with him and followed his career up close as he researched a book after iraq, and i asked him what it was like to interview petraeus. >> i wrote a book about him and interviewed him -- a book about iraq and interviewed him in 2010 and when i asked him for an interview, i got an e-mail response from him directly like that. i got other e-mails from him subsequent to that, subsequent to our interview, where he was enthusiastic and...
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i want to make clear-- i'm not condoning what david petraeus did, nor what the woman did. you know, but i do think that people are human. we have worked for human leaders ourselves, dee dee. and we understand that people ought to be sort of-- take it in context and understand when people are human they make mistakes. some of our greatest moral leaders have done that. there's just a new book out about thomas jefferson and his weaknesses he experienced in life. and yet he was a great leader of this country. what i do believe is that we should see it in the larger context and that is general petrace has given this country distinguished service for over 40 years. he has put his life on the line on a continuous basis. he was nearly killed in service earlier on. and he has been a wonderful, wonderful role model for a lot of people, and we ought to understand his humanness and appreciate that. >> i think the american people are willing to forgive leaders for their impertechses, i really do. even in this area. i don't think that's the question here. i think people don't like it, b
i want to make clear-- i'm not condoning what david petraeus did, nor what the woman did. you know, but i do think that people are human. we have worked for human leaders ourselves, dee dee. and we understand that people ought to be sort of-- take it in context and understand when people are human they make mistakes. some of our greatest moral leaders have done that. there's just a new book out about thomas jefferson and his weaknesses he experienced in life. and yet he was a great leader of...
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the david petraeus scandal and the fiscal cliff. jessica yellin was in the east room for the president's news conference, tell our viewers what unfolded. >> it was a relaxed, confident president obama who showed up today, but talk of his second term agenda was quickly overtaken by talk of cia controversies, tax negotiations, and the fierce defense of one of his own. >> reporter: out of the gate, he was asked about the scandal involving david petraeus. >> he had an extraordinary career. he served his country with great distinction. >> he said he has seen no evidence petraeus' actions compromised national security and would not fault the fbi for failing to tell him they've been investigating his intelligence chief for months. >> they have their own protoc s protocols. >> had we been told, then you would sitting here asking a question about why were you interfering in a criminal information. >> reporter: and the president defended susan rice, after republican senators take issue with the comments that rice made on the sunday morning sh
the david petraeus scandal and the fiscal cliff. jessica yellin was in the east room for the president's news conference, tell our viewers what unfolded. >> it was a relaxed, confident president obama who showed up today, but talk of his second term agenda was quickly overtaken by talk of cia controversies, tax negotiations, and the fierce defense of one of his own. >> reporter: out of the gate, he was asked about the scandal involving david petraeus. >> he had an...
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and later, what david petraeus should have known about juggling. that's coming up. >> not bad. >> thanks. >> and you know something about juggling. >> a little bit. ♪ [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i introduced jill to crest pro-health for life. selected for people over 50. pro-health for life is a toothpaste that defends against tender, inflamed gums, sensitivity and weak enamel. conditions people over 50 experience. crest pro-health for life. so jill can keep living the good life. crest. life opens up when you do. [ "the odd couple" theme playing ] humans. even when we cross our "t"s and dot our "i"s, we still run into problems -- mainly other humans. at liberty mutual insurance, we understand. that's why our auto policies come with accident forgiveness if you qualify, where your rates won't go up due to your first accident, and new car replacement, where if you total your new car, we give you the money for a new one. call... to talk to an insurance expert
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david petraeus' resignation to him could not possibly be about some dumb affair. nobody resigns from office for having an affair. there must be a leftist government cover-up going on. the white house is trying to keep general petraeus from spilling the beans about vague imagined government conspiracy surrounding the benghazi attacks. that's what napolitano is saying. the conservative columnist charles krauthammer is driving the same thing now. it is still really senator john mccain. over the past week senator john mccain made six different television appearances just to talk about the benghazi attack and obama administration cover-up of the attack making his case over and over and over again to any blinking red light within sight about how benghazi should not be viewed as an attack on a u.s. consulate but instead be viewed as a democratic lie. an obama scandal. the senate needs more information about this blatant cover-up, says john mccain. john mccain needs more information. this, for example, is john mccain convening a press conference yesterday morning denounci
david petraeus' resignation to him could not possibly be about some dumb affair. nobody resigns from office for having an affair. there must be a leftist government cover-up going on. the white house is trying to keep general petraeus from spilling the beans about vague imagined government conspiracy surrounding the benghazi attacks. that's what napolitano is saying. the conservative columnist charles krauthammer is driving the same thing now. it is still really senator john mccain. over the...
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. >>> former cia director david petraeus has agreed to testify before a house intelligence committee on the deadly benghazi attack. he appeared reluctant to testify before congress but pressure made him change in mind. he will testify on friday. today, paula broadwell has had her security clears suspended. jill kelley is the other woman involved in this story. she is the one who called the fbi. kelley and her husband had a close relationship with the petraeus and that the kelleys are in maiming otherdebt owing more than $2 million on a building they own. >>> the president held his first conference after his election. sex scandal, secret documents and a new secretary of state. >> if the president was expecting a new honeymoon with reporters, that quickly disappeared in the wake of the sex scandal that took down cia director david petraeus. >> i have no evidence from what i have seen that classified information was disclosed that in any way would have had a negative impact on our national security. >> reporter: the scandal has now 'em broiled afghanistan commander general john allen. w
. >>> former cia director david petraeus has agreed to testify before a house intelligence committee on the deadly benghazi attack. he appeared reluctant to testify before congress but pressure made him change in mind. he will testify on friday. today, paula broadwell has had her security clears suspended. jill kelley is the other woman involved in this story. she is the one who called the fbi. kelley and her husband had a close relationship with the petraeus and that the kelleys are...
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well, all i can tell you is i spoke to a long-standing professional colleague of david petraeus' and petraeus is going to say we are told, you know, be very straightforward, that he believed right from the beginning this involved insurgent/terrorist type activity, but that they had some indications that possibly it could have been tied also to those ongoing riots back in cairo, egypt, over a film. he's going to talk about all of it. what they knew, when they knew it. the key question that senators believe they want to get to is did petraeus have an indication off the bat it was a straight up terrorist attack and either not tell the white house or not tell them on capitol hill. >> and, barbara, we also heard the president in his press conference say that he has no evidence from what he's been able to see that classified information was disclosed. however during that question and answer period, that may happen, now on friday, is there concern from the pentagon there might be some potential security breaches that would be revealed? >> reporter: well, you mean from his affair with paula
well, all i can tell you is i spoke to a long-standing professional colleague of david petraeus' and petraeus is going to say we are told, you know, be very straightforward, that he believed right from the beginning this involved insurgent/terrorist type activity, but that they had some indications that possibly it could have been tied also to those ongoing riots back in cairo, egypt, over a film. he's going to talk about all of it. what they knew, when they knew it. the key question that...
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chief david petraeus. we'll get the latest on petraeus and the chances of compromise on the financial argument from republican senator lindsey graham. we'll get insight on the pretty thinking from his top strategist, david axelrod. then we'll go to our all-star panel of analysts. peggy noonan of the ""wall street journal"." david gergen of harvard university. dee dee myers of "vanity fair." and our own john dickerson. election 2012 is in the bookes, but the story is just beginning. and this is "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs from cbs news in washington, "face the nation" with bob schieffer. >> schieffer: good morning, again. on this veteran's day. and we begin with senator graham who is in clemson, south carolina. senator, thank you for coming. you are on the armed services committee, of course, so i want to start out with this out-of-the blue thunderbolt that hit washington friday concerning david petraeus the c.i.a. director. he resigned, saying he had exercised bad judgment and had an aff
chief david petraeus. we'll get the latest on petraeus and the chances of compromise on the financial argument from republican senator lindsey graham. we'll get insight on the pretty thinking from his top strategist, david axelrod. then we'll go to our all-star panel of analysts. peggy noonan of the ""wall street journal"." david gergen of harvard university. dee dee myers of "vanity fair." and our own john dickerson. election 2012 is in the bookes, but the story...
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director david petraeus will testify tomorrow in two closed door hearings. it was announced today that secretary of state hillary clinton will testify in mid-december. chairman of the house foreign affairs committee spoke today about the frustration over the conflicting information. >> every time we have another classified briefing and every time we try to pry deeper we get conflicting reports about what was taking place. and what messages were being sent to washington. what did the administration know, and we have got to do something to make sure that our personnel in harm's way including diplomat, they are on the front line, that the diplomatic posts are protected and that they have the security that they need. >> dana: all right. so a lot to get to tonight, because there are more reports tonight from the "wall street journal" that updated the story earlier, eric, that said general david petraeus in the final days before he was leaving that there is a lot of conflict and it was over the benghazi issue because he wanted to put out a c.i.a. timeline to put t
director david petraeus will testify tomorrow in two closed door hearings. it was announced today that secretary of state hillary clinton will testify in mid-december. chairman of the house foreign affairs committee spoke today about the frustration over the conflicting information. >> every time we have another classified briefing and every time we try to pry deeper we get conflicting reports about what was taking place. and what messages were being sent to washington. what did the...
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and later, what david petraeus should have known about juggling. that's coming up. >> not bad. >> thanks. >> and you know something about juggling. >> a little bit. gecko (clearing throat) thank you, mr. speaker, uh, members of congress. in celebration of over 75 years of our government employees insurance company, or geico...as most of you know members it.congress. ...i propose savings for everyone! i'm talking hundreds here... and furthermore.. newscaster:breaking news. the gecko is demanding free pudding. and political parties that are actual parties!? with cake! and presents! ah, that was good. too bad nobody could hear me. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. you walk into a conventional mattress store, it's really not about you. we have so much technology in our store to really show the customers what's going on with their bodies. you can see a little more pressure in the shoulders and in the hips. ... now you can feel what happens as we raise your sleep number setting and allow the bed to contour to
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we are going to -- we've been talking about david petraeus. let's get into the other big story of the day here in washington and that is congress coming back to town tomorrow with the challenge preventing this country from going off the fiscal cliff to help us through that weighty subject stan collender is the national director of financial communications at corvis communications in here this morning. that's a pretty fancy title. >> it is difficult to get on a business card, for sure. >> bill: unless your business card is this big. >> or you click on it and it gets you to the right web site. >> bill: good to see you stan. >> thank you. >> bill: our team, peter ogborn has a couple of days off. we'll limp by without him. dan henning picking up most of the burden with the help of phil backert on phones and cyprian bowlding our videographer as always keeping us on camera. >> we don't have someone doing craft services or hair or anything like that? >> bill: no. we do our own makeup. [ laughter ] all right now, there's a rule here today. every guest
we are going to -- we've been talking about david petraeus. let's get into the other big story of the day here in washington and that is congress coming back to town tomorrow with the challenge preventing this country from going off the fiscal cliff to help us through that weighty subject stan collender is the national director of financial communications at corvis communications in here this morning. that's a pretty fancy title. >> it is difficult to get on a business card, for sure....
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i mean, i think david is exactly right. you're going to see david petraeus. he's going to pick himself up and take the rear-view mirrors off, right? and will be back in public life. but like any military campaign, he's got to sort of work his way through it. he'll deal with the family first and then have to do the inevitable first interviews and first public appearances and chart the way forward and as a nation we want him to do that. he needs to be part of the public policy debate. he's smart. an extraordinary public servant. made a mistake. we want him to find the way back in to public life because we need smart voices like his. i say death by a thousand cuts because literally every hour we learn one more fact. who knew at the when you say and when they knew. we find out that the general did admonish broadwell to not send the harassing e-mails and because the facts come out a little bit at a time, they dribble out, it keeps this -- breathes oxygen in to a story that otherwise we all ought to be kind of tired of at this point. >> you heard tom ricks, tom, th
i mean, i think david is exactly right. you're going to see david petraeus. he's going to pick himself up and take the rear-view mirrors off, right? and will be back in public life. but like any military campaign, he's got to sort of work his way through it. he'll deal with the family first and then have to do the inevitable first interviews and first public appearances and chart the way forward and as a nation we want him to do that. he needs to be part of the public policy debate. he's smart....
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. >>> i want to bring back general mark kimmon who is secretary of state and been with david petraeus for 25 years. general, welcome back. one thing that struck me is that you have all of this going on with the generals behaving badly but maybe not as badly before, but misappropriately in the case of general allen and then at the same time you have serious things going on in the world and in particular gaza, israel, and the assassinations it seems of the top hamas military leader today. you know, this is a serious time for world affairs, and this is why the focus really needs to be right back on to this quickly, doesn't it? >> well, that is right. i can assure that while there may be some attention paid inside of the beltway with senator petraeus and perhaps general allen, the general is well informed of what is happening in the middle east, and those two commanders have day-to-day responsibility for the area around israel and the area around egypt. >> we have video of the military leader of hamas who was blown up in his car, and you can even see the explosion here. this is released o
. >>> i want to bring back general mark kimmon who is secretary of state and been with david petraeus for 25 years. general, welcome back. one thing that struck me is that you have all of this going on with the generals behaving badly but maybe not as badly before, but misappropriately in the case of general allen and then at the same time you have serious things going on in the world and in particular gaza, israel, and the assassinations it seems of the top hamas military leader...
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remember, the target of this case isn't david petraeus. the target of this case is paula broadwell and whether there's a stalking charge to be brought. these other people become collateral damage, and now you add general allen to that because he's coming up for confirmation. the fbi turns over the kelley e-mail saying this isn't part of our criminal probe, but if you're going to go through a confirmation process, you might as well see this now. >> don't you think story is far from over and possibly a criminal investigation now? >> i think the criminal investigation is just about over. and i doubt -- and i could be wrong. this may heat up because of the pressure and publicity. i doubt anyone will ever be charged, but i think we'll see more scandal and more collateral damage as more people become more ensnared in this. >> and more people and more parties? >> well, i think when you're going through everybody's e-mails and 20,000 and then they start to say well, what else should we turn over? this is going to be one of those things where someb
remember, the target of this case isn't david petraeus. the target of this case is paula broadwell and whether there's a stalking charge to be brought. these other people become collateral damage, and now you add general allen to that because he's coming up for confirmation. the fbi turns over the kelley e-mail saying this isn't part of our criminal probe, but if you're going to go through a confirmation process, you might as well see this now. >> don't you think story is far from over...